Other than that, I think were all right. OK. Are they just going to sit around and drink beer? And it was much safer for us to sleep in the closet with the TV at the bail bonding place than to be left to her own devices at home. And so I just had to get emergency surgery to remove the tube and clean the blood from inside of my body. When I would write the songs, I dont know whats going to come out, but sometimes I was just so down that the only way I could get better was to take it out on writing a song., Shires sings and plays fiddle throughout this interview. And then, we did it, sing the song. When the ball goes in the pocket, you win. Writing songs isnt so cut and dried, he says. Where the fuck are the rest of them? Every one of them except for me survived. Well definitely get to your verse, which is the second one. As it turns out, it did start some conversations within our own families. It was love at first listen, Shires says of the fiddle songs. And then and the words are amazing and always brought me a smile. And any policing will disproportionately affect people of color, low-income folks and other marginalized groups. Its as opposed to being in the uterus, where it belongs. A lark in the shower from the night to the morning after. For my children, I did what I had to do. Since starting I So Lounging, Shires YouTube following has grown 300 percent. That one speaks to me. But his voice is much stronger and clearer than it was in the Truckers. GROSS: Amanda Shires, how did you decide you wanted to write a song about abortion? Send us a tip using our anonymous form. Some people are upset at the way iPhones charge. It was Fault Lines.. And the other parts, youre just kind of asleep. Trending But and after you did the main melody part, you get to improvise. WebWe would like to show you a description here but the site wont allow us. GROSS: So this track features you, Natalie Hemby and Yola as a guest artist on it. SHIRES: But some of the words are funny. And Im coming for you like a hawk for the dove. I cried, I asked and I balled. Ninety-five percent of study participants who did have an abortion still stood by their decision. SHIRES: I feel like its a little nasally, and I wish it was, like, a little bit lower. Shires has an MFA in poetry, and she's exacting in her use of imagery to portray sensuality as a force both internal and physical. Bridget Bentz, Molly Seavy-Nesper and Kitty Eisele adapted it for the web. In 2019, she founded a country music supergroup called The Highwomen alongside Brandi Carlile, Maren Morris and Natalie Hemby. I didnt want to do more damage. Whereas before, I would just, in my mind, wish it was something different like Etta James or something. And these guys are in their 70s and 80s, and it was very much like hanging out with lots of granddads. And I know I can take it like a man. And Tommy said, if you can hold down that lower third harmony and Id love to, you know, have that spot filled. But it was true. SHIRES: Oh, right, in Alcatraz. I was gifted as a girl. And I save them all. If youre just joining us, my guest is Amanda Shires, and her latest album is called Take It Like A Man. This is FRESH AIR. SHIRES: I forced myself in that position. Say whatever feels better or whatever. And she would dance a little bit to The Beatles and stuff and started seeing the possibility that she might go into music one day. Is a chrysalis a butterfly? Hearing Shires spell that out is invigorating. Can you play something that you think kind of epitomizes the style that you learned and fell in love with? Former Drive-By Trucker is enjoying a breakout moment with new album 'Southeastern'. Jason Isbell and his wife, Amanda Shires, were walking around last weekend in Newport, Rhode Island, where they played the Newport Folk Festival. I hope you get well soon. Isbell responded, Thank you Aimee. No more? But through the process of making the record and all the things that go with that, the hours and the tedium, it got easier for us to have conversations, not because we were doing the work of addressing the problems, but because we found common ground on something again, which has always been music and words.. I laid hands upon the world. But theres a medication you can take that aborts the fertilized egg from your fallopian tube. After Isbell announced last week that he would require enhanced Covid countermeasures at his show in Austin, Texas, singer-songwriter Marc Broussard took to Twitter to lash out at Isbell, calling him bourgeois and elitist. Broussard asserted, Some working-class fans cant afford the risks associated with either the vaccines or even getting a test, adding, Id rather quit music than become a pawn in the pressure campaign. He did not provide any evidence of the risks he claimed were associated with getting the jab or receiving a test. I would she would set us up in the in the closet of the bail bonds office. But I think folks forget that access to abortion and reproductive healthcare is not just about terminating unwanted pregnancy. GROSS: I think its time for another break. And then she wanted to know if it was real, so she hired a private investigator and all this. How Trump's Team Conned Susan Collins Into Dooming Roe v. Wade, Add Abortion to the List of Things Republicans Are Blaming for Uvalde, Want to Know What Politics Looks Like After Roe? Shires started playing fiddle professionally when she was 15 with the band the Texas Playboys, which used to be led by Bob Wills, the father of Western Swing. The bastards hung me at the Salem gallows hill. And I dont know. People are still going to get abortions, and were going to have to keep peoples secrets, and house people, and try to do the best we can. And I know that he likes to help. In Portland, he led the band (including his wife on fiddle) through charging, heartfelt songs that often sounded like the cavalry was coming. I mean, is it fatal for a woman if nothing is done? One is a Honduran asylum-seeker who died while trying to cross the border. Were proud to be from that area. Amanda Shires opens her new album To the Sunset with a strikingly different scenario. A few hours later, his band is peeling the wallpaper with their customary encore cover tune. You know, its Jimmy Webbs song originally, but. Someone saw me sleeping naked in the noon sun. Its a lot like writing a song about it. I had people threatening me. I could tell my milk cow I could tell by the way she lows. GROSS: You know, youve said that a lot of the songs on this album come from a troubled period of your marriage to songwriter and singer Jason Isbell, who you perform with and who plays on this album. She gets pregnant and wants to have an abortion, although she doesnt feel great about it. The 100 Best Albums of 2022. On your Twitter, you describe yourself as a disciple of Leonard Cohen. Just admit Im what you want. Is that right? Girls high school basketball team forfeits a game because it refused to play against a team with a transgender player, Fox Leaders Wanted to Break From Trump but Struggled to Make It Happen, Not Going to Read That: White House Press Secretary Brushes Off DeSantis Op-Ed, Sunshine returns to SoCal on Thursday but cold temps stick around, AccuWeather: AM showers before a mild afternoon, Opening arguments heard in court for 2020 Conway fatal shooting that killed a 19-year-old. I dont care if somebody wants to put a target on me. This fight is about more than just abortion. He still cant seem to notice when the dishwashers unloaded and all the dishes are put away. We followed a coyote through the dust of Mexico. And I was like, my granddad was in Alcatraz? I want to talk with you about The Highwomen. However, you can still listen with the Spotify or Apple Music playlist at the bottom of the page. So to give listeners a sense of Bob Wills & The Texas Playboys, listeners who dont know who they are, this is a classic 1940 recording of New San Antonio Rose., (SOUNDBITE OF SONG, NEW SAN ANTONIO ROSE), BOB WILLS AND HIS TEXAS PLAYBOYS: (Singing) Deep within my heart lies a melody, a song of old San Antone (ph) San Antone where in dreams I live with a memory beneath the stars, all alone. And (laughter) I, like, played the part. We found music, and then being in the Shoals area just gave us an early look at all the places music can take you. I am Terry Gross. SHIRES: But I like it because I like to imagine like, if he was alive and I got to play this for him, I would be singing Im your Amanda. Too caught up in the way I want you rolling over me. Will you look at me the same? I dont understand why its such a big issue, as big of an issue as it is. And Milk Cow Blues goes like this. GROSS: How did you find that out? Well, why dont you sing some of it for us? Why werent you accepting it? And even on the charts, theres one spot usually I think in 2016, there was 13% representation of women to men on country radio, and now it still sits pleasantly at 16% on a good week. So its probably important to stay alive before you start questioning your liberty.. In the past, white men have said otherwise. It was love at first listen. Her new album of original songs is called Take It Like A Man. She also co-founded the country supergroup the Highwomen, which includes Brandi Carlile, Maren Morris and Natalie Hemby. If you purchase a product or register for an account through one of the links on our site, we may receive compensation. Related And I was like, thats what I want to do, because you play this song. Thank you for your songs. If writing came easier sober, playing live was terrifying at first, he says. I tried so hard to make myself clear. Video Playlist: Drive-By Truckers Play Pared-Down Southern Rock, You can still find those adventures if you surround yourself with the right people, Isbell tells Rolling Stone, sitting at a picnic table on the roof of the Port City Music Hall in Portland, Maine, where hell perform in a couple of hours, a few days after his Newport set. The spurs of hip bones Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR. And here it sits. And then I asked Chance, and Chance was like, no, those are real documents. Rock & roll kids just let decisions make themselves. On August 9, 2021 GROSS: That sounds really, really awful. The 500 Greatest Songs of All Time SHIRES: Yes. We have to work hard now to mobilize and help people vote. Got myself a breakthrough case of Covid- feeling fine but well have to cancel the next few shows (Asheville, Louisville, Columbus, Wilkes-Barre, and Wilmington). It was keeping me up at night. And I know that Jasons platform is bigger than mine. And then I thought about Waylon and Kris and them of The Highwaymen, and I was like, they were kind of speaking about ageism. So one of the things you learned, like, I think in the past few years is that your grandfather had spent years in prison. Im Terry Gross, and this is FRESH AIR. The singer, songwriter and fiddler found comfort with an unexpected collaborator and plumbed new depths on her latest album, Take It Like a Man. Amanda I mean, many songwriters would say, oh, theyre not about me. As if to match it, she experimented for the first time with filtering the sound of her fiddle through effects pedals, which lends her playing a fierce luminescence. On August 9, 2021 my fallopian tube ruptured. I know the cost of flight is landing. We both know that none of that was keeping, keeping me anyhow. GROSS: I think its so interesting that your mother worked as a bail bondsman, not knowing that her own father had spent so much time in prison. SHIRES: I mean OK Im going to call her up after this, too. Essentially, shes just a good person. Wade was leaked last month, Amanda Shires shared some personal news on social media. She sings of the excruciating awareness of both mirroring and superseding her own mother. Why didnt more people show up and speak up? Isbell took a stand, even facing backlash from his fellow artists. Tax ID: 26-2810489, Copyright 2022 Fresh Air. Amanda Shires opens her new album To the Sunset with a strikingly different scenario. It is not trapped in your throat. Soon after a Supreme Court draft ruling that would overturn Roe v. Wade was leaked last month, Amanda Shires shared some personal news on social media. Lets get back to the interview I recorded last week with singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires. / And the fear that I feel when I see my features reversed in my own daughter's face." Im Terry Gross. GROSS: You know, your husband plays on this album, but the songs are about a bad period in your marriage. SHIRES: Thats well, see, Im accepting that it sounds like its supposed to now. And the character you wrote yourself out to be, the flagship all part of my fooling. SHIRES: It was because Tommy Allsup was living in Snyder, Texas, at that time, and he was running the Bob Wills band. Its a great song, so I thought wed play some of it. Since publishing my op-ed, Ive heard from some folks who are in their eighties. SHIRES: Honestly, a lot of times, my thoughts come to me just in pictures. Hearing these stories, I think that it makes your backbone stronger. I know they enjoy it. 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For the past decade or so, Amanda Shires has sung about the dark shades of relationships lapsed communication, broken trust, fading intimacy with a devastating eye for detail. Shed been learning to play classical music on the violin at school when her music teacher introduced her to some of Frankie McWhorters fiddle tunes. So by the time I went into the hospital, my fallopian tube had already ruptured. "Maybe it was circumstance, but I saw my chance and I took it," she boasts, her tone fuzzed-out by distortion. On August 9, 2021 my fallopian tube ruptured. You can have as much fun. That way, there could be a more kind of a wider effort to try and have the conversation with folks and realize that youre not alone. My focus stays strong I can work on a song for six or seven hours in one day, and not get bored or tired of it.. Im glad to be a listener and also glad to see folks from those generations supporting the right to choose. She performs in several settings and has received awards in each of them. Another is a freedom rider who died during the Freedom Rides. requiring proof of vaccination or proof of a recent negative COVID test, even facing backlash from his fellow artists, Buy newspaper front pages, posters and more. Curled up on the floor with it all. I was learning orchestra and classical music in school and privately. Click the audio link above to get the full experience, On channeling her feelings about her marriage into writing Fault Lines and showing it to Isbell, I went and I sat down in my barn of internal wandering, and this is after some kind of nebulous argument, and I wrote Fault Lines and then I texted it to him, just like youd imagine, I said, I just wrote this song. And then in my mind I thought, Well, if he couldnt hear the frequency of my voice before, maybe he could hear it through music, you know? You can call me serious trouble. For those who are unfamiliar, it is impossible for an ectopic pregnancy to go to term. I dont have certain kinds of fatigue. Home to the Grand Ole Opry from 1943-1974, the Ryman earned the moniker \"Mother Church of Country Music\" as the genres of country and bluegrass developed on its stage and found a national audience on radio and television. Moon, in all your splendor. But one time, you know, not everybody could make a show. I was lucky. You could say its all my fault. I still miss the way you lean in. When Shires was in the hospital giving birth to their daughter, Mercy, in 2015, she had to disclose to her doctor, with her husband and mother in the room, that shed had an abortion. Singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires still remembers the moment she fell in love with the fiddle. All Rights reserved. Im not a big AA guy, but Ill go every once in a while. We want to hear it. And I was reading mine. Tomorrow on FRESH AIR, well talk about the power, promise and potential harm of YouTube. hide caption. Upcoming Dates Past Her study essentially proves that when folks cant have an abortion, it affects their mental health, their economic standing, their overall well-being. But, yeah, after a while thinking about it, I got more comfortable with it. 'Mandalorian' star Pedro Pascal, creators on new Grogu revelations and 'Last of Us' comparisons, Saved by the bell: Contestant ordered to keep mask on, in historic 'Masked Singer' first, Chris Pine admits 'it does look' like Harry Styles spit on him but this is what actually happened, Rebel Wilson 'collapsed' after Ramona Agruma proposal: 'I was so overwhelmed', Amy Grant recalls being 'so scared' to return to touring following serious bike accident. In 2020, she penned an op-ed for Rolling Stone about why abortion rights matter. SHIRES: She did. The song is called Hawk For The Dove.. This happened to me two and a half weeks before Texas abortion ban went into effect. I got up to sing, and I was like, oh, crap. Theres so much attached to folks thinking women treat it as a kind of birth control. I would have died; my daughter, Mercy, would have lost her mother; my husband, Jason, would be a widower. And he was there for 25 years. Theyre just, you know, scans of them. But I did move a couple of times out of the house, not because it was a leaving thing, but because I didnt want to do anything that would harm, you know, make it worse. GROSS: How did you end up actually playing in the Texas Playboys band? A person having a miscarriage may have to fly to another state, just so they or their doctor doesnt get into legal trouble. When youre trying to make a tough decision, you need a lot of support. Jason Isbell and Amanda Shires perform at Ryman Auditorium in Nashville. Which brings up the question, why were Jason and I, and Margo Price, the biggest celebrities quasi-celebrities at the march in Nashville? And then my orchestra teacher recommended me to a private violin teacher. Our guest will be Mark Bergen, author of the new book Like, Comment, Subscribe in which he reports on how YouTube ushered in a world of abundant content and creativity of influencers and online hustlers, of information overload and endless culture wars. Its not more threatening than the idea of taking away the services and the work that doctors and nurses do. She was in her home recording studio with her fiddle and with guitarist Zach Setchfield, and they played a few songs. You can keep the car and the house. Maybe I was asking for a little too much. And after we recorded it, he said, thats a really good song. Jason Isbell and his wife, Amanda Shires, were walking around last weekend in Newport, Rhode Island, where they played the Newport Folk Festival. Shes also one of the founders of the group the Highwomen. GROSS: So how seriously were you taken by the musicians in the band? So when I would write the songs, I dont know whats going to come out, but sometimes, it was so I was just so down that the only way I could get better was to take it out on writing a song. Use of and/or registration on any portion of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement, Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement, and Your Privacy Choices and Rights (each updated 1/26/2023). This part of my life and our marriage was difficult and it took me back to the reason I came to writing and doing music in the first place, which is expression, she says. See where your favorite artists and songs rank on the Rolling Stone Charts. She co-founded the country supergroup The Highwomen, which includes Brandi Carlile, Maren Morris and Natalie Hemby. What happened between now and then? Not standing up for folks is not helping and its not right. Theyre just songs because everybody goes through troubles in their relationship. Im going to change the subject here. ", Shires and Isbell have a toddler daughter together, and thanks to gendered assumptions about the distribution of their parenting duties, Shires has fielded more than her share of questions about how she balances motherhood and music-making. Members get extended access to PBS video on demand and more. Got myself a breakthrough case of Covid, the Alabama-born artist tweeted Tuesday. How did you decide to say that these songs are really about a bad period of your marriage? So I started just taking notes on the radio because I heard it. And it also made me stronger in the fact that I could feel comfortable singing about it and talking about it. When we left off, we were talking about when Shires was 15 and started playing fiddle with the Texas Playboys, which used to be Bob Wills band. (In "Wasn't I Paying Attention," a tale of dramatically staged, small-town suicide, for example, the way she sings the word "attention" amplifies the narrator's unsettled state.) And then coupled with the pandemic and all that, he was on self-preservation mode, and I was too. So when you started taking lessons with Frankie McWhorter and then became part of the band, how much did you know about Bob Wills & The Texas Playboys? GROSS: With the Texas Playboys when youre performing with them or something that you learned from one of your teachers but that really made you fall in love with the style and that epitomizes what that style is. All the time, the want, the overwhelming volume of breathing. SHIRES: Oh, yes, Mercy is my daughter. GROSS: Lets take another break here. Not saying something is not helping. Shires plays fiddle in the band. 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